Jesus in John 8:36 says to us, "So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed." He spoke about sin.

 Many Christians have been baptized, say they have received the Holy Spirit, perhaps they are prophets or heal the sicks or are declared ministries in their churches.
 But they always confess to being sinner and find it normal.

the deliverance of Sin

Jesus in John 8:36 says to us, "So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed." He spoke about sin.

Sinful Christians.

 Many Christians have been baptized, say they have received the Holy Spirit, perhaps they are prophets or heal the sicks or are declared ministries in their churches.
 But they always confess to being sinner and find it normal.

Some, say, they are justified sinners. Whereas when we are justified, we are just and not sinners, otherwise it makes no sense.

When we are sinners, we are necessarily slaves to sin. Jesus said, "Whoever practices sin is a slave to sin"

If a man released from tobacco said to you, "I can not help but smoke from time to time," you would think, with good reason, that he is still a slave to tobacco.

Many preach on one side:
"Jesus freed us from sin," and from the other prays, "Lord be appeased to me who am a wretched sinner!
We want to say: But who is this Jesus, who can not really free from sin?

 We accommodate our sin as we can.

Some argue that their old nature is crucified with Christ, that they are pure and holy as spirit, and say, "It is not I who sin, but it is the sin or the flesh that dwells in me”. If it is the sin, or the flesh that are the old man, who sins, is that the old nature is not crucified with Christ.

And still others say, my old man is crucified, my spirit is pure, but my soul is not regenerated, it is she who sins. I must therefore through my spirit, purified my soul little by little.

But the soul can not be independent of the spirit.

In the beginning when God created man, he did not create the different spirit of the soul in man.
God has breathed his breath of life into man, and man has become a living soul. (Gen 2/7).

When the spirit seeks, the soul longs (Isaiah 26/9)
When the spirit is down, the soul is in pain. (Isaiah 65:14)
The soul always reflects the state of the mind.
If my spirit is holy, my soul is holy.

For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit, Luke 6: 43

The soul who sins shall die (Ezekiel 18/4)

When in Hebrews 4/12 it is written: "For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.”

it is not written, that it is you with the word of God, who will separate your soul from your spirit, far from it.
It is only a question of the judgment of God, to the man who will not strive to enter his rest, see verse 11 above. By the way, to enter his rest, is to be entirely free from sin.
He therefore, judges this whole man and separate everything within himself.

Sanctification

Imagine the answer you would give to your child, who after doing silly things, comes to tell you, but, I am pure, it is my soul or my carnal nature who did silly things”.

Virtually all Christians, including me, have known, the Gospel that I will call "leap frog".

We sin, we ask forgiveness we are forgiven, then we sin again and we start again.

We declares then, not to remain in sin, or not to practice sin. We think that, with time, we will sin less and less, always tending more and more towards perfection, but without ever being able to reach it, except in the sky, because, we say, on earth we will always remain sinners.

In reality, we are like the Hebrews, under the law, who confessed their sins by sacrificing an animal, were forgiven, and sin again.
It is written in Hebrews 10 1 and 2
it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near.
Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, since the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have any consciousness of sins?”
And
Heb 10: 4
For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.

By confessing to be a sinner, practicing, the gospel “leap frog”, and recognizing: "that perfection will never be attained." By this, the Christians show that they are under the law, like the Hebrews. they recognize that for them also, as for the Hebrews under the law, their sins are not removed permanently.

While: Jesus came to take away the sin. (John 1/29)

The famous preacher Spurgeon said in his sermon, "the deliverance from sin"
"As Christians, we can never be fully happy, in peace, and in full spiritual health, until we are holy in all our conduct. We must be delivered from sin. "

It is written continuing in Hebrews 10 verse 10
And by, that will we have been sanctified, through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Hebreux 10/14
For by a single offering, he has perfected for all time those, who are being sanctified.

So we see, on one side, those who walk under the law, like the Hebrews at the beginning of Hebrews 10, who practice the gospel "leap frog", who will have never been sanctified and perfected and who confess to be always sinners.

and of another those who have been sanctified and perfected by Jesus-Christ once for all.

How is it possible to go from one to the other?

only by the faith, and grace of God.

Hebreux 12/14

Follow after peace with all men, and the sanctification, without which no man shall see the Lord.

There is no secret, those who will not strive to enter into his rest (Hebrews 4: 11), and who will not have sanctification (Heb 12:14), will not see the Lord and will be passed through the double-edged sword of the word of God to be judged.

I understand that once, new man, one must continually sanctify oneself, or that we must always try to look like more and more Jesus Christ, that we must persevere and so on.

But only he who is already sanctified and attained perfection can progress in sanctification and perfection.

The sinner, whether Christian or not, will never be able to sanctified.

Jeremiah 13/23:
Can an Ethiopian change his skin, And a leopard his spots? Likewise, Then also you can do good, you who are accustomed to do evil.

  Rev 22/11
Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.”

Only the holy can sanctify himself.

How can one be holy?

We can not give what we have not received.

This is why most teachings look like all the religious teachings of the world in different forms.

How to dominate, or slowly kill our ego or old man.

Through involvement, discipline, perseverance, fidelity, will, or personal prayer or from each other, deliverance, communion etc.

All these doctrines are supposed to bring Christians, more or less quickly, to a holiness more and more refined, but never complete.

In reality, all these teachings, useless for deliverance of sin, are only the product of the carnal man, old man, still under the law, who can not do the good he wants and does the evil he does not want. as the apostle Paul described in Romans ch. 7/14 to 25, which obviously does not concern the new man, but the old man who is still a slave to the law, sin and the flesh.

It is written in Romans end of verse 25:

So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

I have good news: The mind and the flesh are both part of the whole old man.

By his mind, the old man could a little discipline the flesh, but she will come again even more.

In any way who he tries, no old man can ever destroy or kill an old man.

Only a miracle can kill the old man. To achieve a true new birth.

1 Cor 15/36
You foolish person! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies

If there is no death of the old man, there is no new life: Neither do men put new wine into old wine-skins

Romans 6: 3 and 4:

Do you not know, that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus, were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.

 Written in the past, it's done.

When Jesus Christ died on the cross, the old man died once for all. A dead person, crucified with Christ, does not come back, neither in the form of the flesh, or in the form of an unregenerate soul, or anything else to put to death.
 If the old man, the old nature, the flesh, or the unregenerate soul comes back it is still alive, and there is no newness of life.

Either he was never dead, or you were deceived by the devil and you did not remain in faith that he was really dead.
If you are born of God, your old man is dead. Point. Otherwise you are not born of God.
Ask God to reveal it to you, he will do it if you seek with all your heart.

John 3/5 and 6

Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

The old man was born from the flesh, he is flesh. After his death, is born the new man (whole) born from the Spirit, he is spirit. A new spirit, new soul in a washed body from sin. Heb 10/22

 It's simple ! So simple, that men do not want to believe it, either because they prefer darkness over light, as said Jesus in (John 3/18 & 19) or because they are still seduced by the devil and his acolytes.

It is obvious that when a man is born, he is not born in adulthood. He is born baby, and has everything to learn from his new life. When a baby is born, he sees only shadows, he does not hear well, he does not walk and does not speak either, then, he grows up little by little. But he's still a new creation, The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. (2 Cor 5/17)

In the new has become  There is no place for an old man, an old nature, an unregenerate soul or whatever else you want to kill. God does not lie.

It is like a very small oak, which comes out of the ground and that grows, it is necessary first that the acorn is put in the ground and that it dies then begins to grow the oak, if one does not know the trees, It is difficult to know that it is an oak, it is far from having reached the perfection of a majestic oak of several decades, but it is still an oak, whole, perfect and pure, mixed with no other tree species. And he will grow years after years.

John 3/12

If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things?

In short, the new birth is what?

A man whose nature from the first Adam, born from the flesh and slave of sin, who is buried with Christ and dies, to be born in a new nature, born from the Spirit, delivered from sin, the nature of Christ, entirely and totally holy and pure. Yeah, like Jesus, the last Adam, when he first came to earth, we are from the nature of the firstborn of many brethren. (Romans 8:29)

 When the first Adam came to earth, he was without sin. It is because he sinned that he died (once and for all) to his sinless nature, to put on a sinful nature.
When we are born from the flesh, we inherit sin, the sinful nature from Adam.

To be born of God, the old nature, the sinful nature, must necessarily be dead (once and for all). It is impossible to put on a new nature in an old nature.
To say that "only the spirit would be regenerated" is still an invention of the carnal man, old man, who does not really know what the new birth is. The man is not divisible.

"No man puts a piece of new cloth unto an old garment" (Matt 9/16)
"You do not put new wine in old wine-skins either. (Mat 9/17)

When we are born of God, we have put on a pure nature that comes from the Spirit, a spiritual nature, without sin.
Remember that Adam needed to sin only once to be definitively dead for God.
Born of God, we receive a much better nature than the first Adam had received.

That's why he wrote: 1 John 3/9 & 10

Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

In this the children of God (born from the spirit) are manifest, and the children of the devil (born from the flesh)

Colossians 1: 21-23:

And you, who once were alienated and hostile in mind, doing evil deeds, he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him, if indeed you continue in the faith, stable and steadfast, not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you heard, which has been proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, became a minister.

While reading these verses from Colossians 1, we see that there is one condition, which is to remain in faith. Yes, but what faith. We often hear: "I have faith for this, or for that etc".

But here it is a matter of abiding in faith, one faith, (Eph 4: 5) the faith, which he has now reconciled to you by his death, in the body of his flesh, to make you appear before him, holy, blameless and above reproach.

And even if sometimes, in the eyes of the world, the new man, would make some errors of conduct while growing up, in the eyes of God he will remain pure and blameless as long as he remains in the faith. To remain in the faith is also to remain in obedience to the holy spirit, in us.

Yes, but are not we going to appear before him after our death? yes, but it is now, that we enter the Kingdom of God, by faith.

If, by faith, we are not there now, all, on this earth, we will never be there.

and whoever lives, and believes in me, will never die. Do you believe that? (John 11/26) said Jesus.

it is here and now, that you are holy, that you are entering into the kingdom of God, which is why you will never die.

The Bible tells us that it is now that we are entering the Kingdom of God who is already there, in our midst (Luke 17/21).

Yet it is clear that neither unclean nor idolater nor greedy will enter the Kingdom of God (Ephesians 5/5)

neither the least of the greedy, impure or idolater, nor the one who sins almost no longer, nor even the one whose only soul or the old nature or any other thing sins, will enter the Kingdom of God.

Only those who are wholly holy, without tasks, without wrinkles, or anything of that kind, enter the Kingdom of God. (Ephesians 5/27)

Remember that you must wear the wedding dress. (Mat 22/11)

In conclusion, I quote and comment 1 Thes 5/23

Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. He who calls you is faithful; he will surely do it.

You see that it is not written: become little by little, but be kept, so he is already irreproachable and moreover, it is God who will keep it irreproachable.

He confirms the verse of 1 John 3/9 Whoever is born of God can not sin.

The condition is: as it is written in the verse quoted above from Col 1: 21-23: to abide in faith or to believe.

The righteous live by his faith. (Rom 1/17, Gal 3/11, Heb 10: 38 (The righteous being of course holy)

Because we walk by faith and not by sight (2 Cor 5/7)

What faith, always the same, the only faith.

there is one Lord, one faith, one baptism (Ep 4/5)

A sinner, Christian or not, he is not and he will never be sitting in the heavenly places in Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 2: 6-8

He raised us up with him, and seated us with him, in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that, in the coming ages he might show, the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

If today we can say that we are without sin, holy, pure blameless, seated with him this is not our own doing; it is the gift of God.

Glory to God

Jacques Goillot